The rise of the JVM as a platform?

There has been a lot of talk about the issues of Java bloat recently and where Java should go. Back last year (1 day after Google presentation was released) I did a presentation on Java futures at Java Night.

But via Stefan to Ted there appears to be more talk about using the JVM as a platform rather than extending Java to do everything. I once said on a public forum

Remember people Java is LANGUAGE while JVM is just another target PLATFORM albeit a portable one.

Now this makes a lot of sense really, especially when you consider virtualisation, so the JVM becomes the basic execution environment and you have a (limited) set of languages with defined interoperation via the JVM. I also like the solution of having a cut down Java that just has the core in it (something I've proposed for JavaSE 7)

Oh and now for the smug bit. I said the above quote in January 1997, glad to see people catching up :)

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